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		<title>The Blogroll Roundup:  Critiquing the JAMA Article</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[So much for the evil god Set keeping his mouth shut—people just seem to insist on questioning authority.  The JAMA article is jammed with answers, but queries continue.  Assembled here for your pleasure and edification are the best examples of critical questioning culled from the Egyptological blogosphere.     Tangled roots, the passed-over prince, aging them [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://emhotep.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/JAMA-blogroll-roundup-tab.png"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-3964" style="margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 10px; border: 0px;" title="JAMA blogroll roundup-tab" src="http://emhotep.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/JAMA-blogroll-roundup-tab.png" alt="" width="174" height="185" /></a>So much for the evil god Set keeping his mouth shut—people just seem to insist on questioning authority.  The <strong><em>JAMA</em></strong> article is jammed with answers, but queries continue.  Assembled here for your pleasure and edification are the best examples of critical questioning culled from the Egyptological blogosphere.    </p>
<p>Tangled roots, the passed-over prince, aging them bones, lack of control, and Kate Phizackerley’s Quest for Accuracy.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Rose</strong>, the online editor for the <em>Archaeological Institute of America</em> and co-writer (with Heather Pringle) of <strong>Archaeology Magazine’s</strong> blog, <strong><em>Beyond Stone and Bone</em></strong>, was one of the first to look a bit askance at the media coverage of the new analysis of Tutankhamun.  “I suspect they are overdoing it a bit,” he said with regard to their characterization of the Boy King as a frail young man (“<a href="http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/tutdna/">Tut: Disease and DNA News</a>”).</p>
<p>Mark was also fast out of the gate to call attention to the age problem with the mummified skeleton from KV55 that was identified by the <strong><em>JAMA</em></strong> article as Akhenaten.  Initial analysis of the mummy based on dental and skeletal analysis suggested a time-of-death in the early 20’s, whereas Akhenaten is believed to have lived into his 30’s. </p>
<p>In making the attribution of Akhenaten to KV55, the JAMA report simply says:</p>
<blockquote><p>The mummy in KV55 was previously thought to be in his 20s when he died.  However, our new computed tomography investigation revealed that he lived to be much older.  (<strong><em>JAMA</em></strong>, Table 1, footnote b, p. 640).</p></blockquote>
<p>In “<a href="http://archaeology.org/blog/?p=903">Time for the Great Pyramid</a>”, Mr. Rose states that he is working on a piece about the results of the <strong><em>JAMA</em></strong> study, set to run in the May/June issue of <strong>Archaeology Magazine</strong>.  He hopes to get some answers regarding questions he (and we) has about the DNA analysis and CT scan/tomography.</p>
<p>Mark was also kind enough to offer in the Comments section to take his readers’ questions to Dr. Carsten Pusch when he interviews him.  In particular, he stated that he has been following Kate Phizackerley’s articles (below) very closely and will present some of her questions to Pusch. </p>
<p>Incidentally, I have passed on some of your questions, Gentle Readers, as well as a few of my own.  Mark’s offer in effect places us just one handshake away from one of the primaries of the <strong><em>JAMA</em></strong> article.  Behold the power of the Internet!</p>
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<p><strong>Kate Phizackerley</strong>, of <strong><em>News from the Valley of the Kings</em></strong>, began her own contribution practically before the ink on the <strong><em>JAMA</em></strong> report was dry.  Beginning with the question of how accurately geneticists can generalize from the data, given the incest issue, Kate went on to pen the first published scholarly critique of the study’s conclusions.</p>
<p>Kate’s work has become the nerve center of the critical analysis of the <strong><em>JAMA</em></strong> study on the Egyptological blogosphere.  Much of it has already been linked from <strong><em>Em Hotep</em></strong>, but for the sake of this compendium I have assembled all of her relevant articles to date:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.kv64.info/2010/02/consanguity-problem.html">The Consanguinity Problem</a>, February 24, 2010</li>
<li><a href="http://www.kv64.info/2010/02/example-of-my-consanguinity-concerns.html">An example of my consanguinity concerns</a>, February 28, 2010</li>
<li><a href="http://www.kv64.info/2010/03/dna-shows-that-kv55-mummy-probably-not.html">DNA Shows that KV55 Mummy Probably Not Akhenaten</a>, March 02, 2010—Kate’s opus magnum detailing her doubts regarding the identification of KV55 as Akhenaten</li>
<li><a href="http://www.kv64.info/2010/03/genetic-sudoko.html">Genetic Sudoko</a>, March 3, 2010</li>
<li><a href="http://www.kv64.info/2010/03/questions-roundup-and-combative-zahi.html">Questions Roundup and a Combative Zahi</a>, March 7, 2010</li>
<li><a href="http://www.kv64.info/2010/03/akhenaten-museum-planned.html">Akhenaten Museum Planned</a>, March 11, 2010</li>
<li><a href="http://www.kv64.info/2010/03/i-do-larger-dna-table-when-i-get-chance.html">I&#8217;ll do a larger DNA table when I get chance &#8211; implications for Egyptological</a>, March 13, 2010</li>
<li><a href="http://www.kv64.info/2010/03/more-on-tutankhamun-family-dna.html">More on Tutankhamun Family DNA</a>, March 26, 2010</li>
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<p>Mummies expert <strong>Dylan Bickerstaffe</strong> has also referenced Kate’s work on the blog section of his website, <strong><em>Exploring Ancient Lands</em></strong>.  In “<a href="http://www.dylanb.me.uk/wp/?p=463">HAVE THE DNA TESTS PROVED AKHENATEN WAS TUTANKHAMUN’S FATHER? Or have they told us something else?</a>” Dylan raises a brow over the methodology of the study as it was detailed in <strong><em>JAMA</em></strong>.  He is especially concerned over why the study was not conducted blind, as is typically done to prevent the researchers’ expectations from biasing their conclusions. </p>
<p>Dylan also questions why the control group was so small, and why mummies from other periods were not included to help monitor accuracy.  As he puts it, “Thus if Tutankhamun turns out to be descended from a Ptolemaic mummy, you know you have a problem!”  And then there is the matter of why KV21A and KV21B were in the study rather than the control group.</p>
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<p>Speaking of inclusions and exclusions, <strong>Tim Reid</strong> of <strong><em>The Egyptians</em></strong> wonders why the mummy of a young boy from KV35 was not included in the study at all.  In “<a href="http://tim-theegyptians.blogspot.com/2010/03/forgotten-boy.html">The Forgotten Boy</a>,” Tim points out that there are good reasons to suspect that the mummy could be that of Prince Webensenu, a son of Amenhotep II.  The article details some of the adventures and misadventures of the occupants of KV35, and includes some informed speculation about the identity of Smenkhkare, a name that continues to haunt the <strong><em>JAMA</em></strong> study in various and sundry ways.</p>
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<p>And while not a blog, <strong><em>Egyptian Dreams</em></strong> is an Egyptology forum with very knowledgeable moderators and participants.  For a number of excellent threads on the <strong><em>JAMA</em></strong> study check out the <strong>Evidence from Amarna</strong> section.  Some of the threads you will want to explore include:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://forum.egyptiandreams.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=4851">Implications of DNA results + KV55=Akhenaten</a></li>
<li><a href="http://forum.egyptiandreams.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=4867">Reconsideration of the Chronology of the Eighteenth Dynasty</a></li>
<li><a href="http://forum.egyptiandreams.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=4848">Tutankhamen&#8217;s family</a></li>
<li><a href="http://forum.egyptiandreams.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=4855">Amarna family tree</a></li>
<li><a href="http://forum.egyptiandreams.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=4857">KV 21 and mummies KV21A and B</a></li>
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		<title>Mark Rose:  Jean-Pierre Houdin Should be Allowed to Test His Internal Ramp Theory</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 05:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark Rose, the Archaeological Institute of America’s online editor, has written a well-timed editorial in Beyond Stone &#38; Bone, Archaeology Magazine’s blog, regarding Jean-Pierre Houdin’s work with Khufu’s Pyramid. If we can take physical samples from some of the most important and fragile “artifacts” in all of Egypt—royal mummies—then why can’t we allow Jean Pierre [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://emhotep.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/kpr-tab.png"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-3711" style="margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 10px; border: 0px;" title="kpr-tab" src="http://emhotep.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/kpr-tab.png" alt="" width="174" height="185" /></a>Mark Rose, the <em>Archaeological Institute of America</em>’s online editor, has written a well-timed editorial in <strong>Beyond Stone &amp; Bone</strong>, <em>Archaeology Magazine</em>’s blog, regarding Jean-Pierre Houdin’s work with Khufu’s Pyramid.</p>
<p>If we can take physical samples from some of the most important and fragile “artifacts” in all of Egypt—royal mummies—then why can’t we allow Jean Pierre to conduct completely non-invasive work which may unravel one of humankind’s most abiding riddles:  How was the Great Pyramid built?</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">After receiving a copy of <strong>Khufu’s Pyramid Revealed</strong>, <a href="http://emhotep.net/tag/jean-pierre-houdin/">Jean-Pierre</a>’s follow-up and supplement to his and <a href="http://emhotep.net/tag/bob-brier/">Bob Brier</a>’s bestselling book, <strong><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Secret-Great-Pyramid-Obsession-Solution/dp/0061655538/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1268102162&amp;sr=1-1">The Secret of the Great Pyramid</a>, </strong>Mr. Rose found himself wondering why M. Houdin’s work has hit a snag at the administrative level.  Jean-Pierre’s request to have <a href="http://emhotep.net/2009/09/12/locations/lower-egypt/giza-plateau-lower-egypt/hemienu-to-houdin-building-a-great-pyramid-introduction/">his internal ramp theory</a> tested and opened to peer review has met with a suspicious amount of bureaucratic leg-dragging.</p>
<p>Mr. Rose correctly points out that all Jean-Pierre is requesting is an opportunity to spend about eighteen hours using infrared thermographic and similar technologies to test his theories.  The equipment would not come into actual physical contact with the pyramid—it wouldn’t need to.</p>
<p>It does seem as if a double standard is being applied in light of the cautious—but admittedly more intrusive—work recently completed on <a href="http://emhotep.net/tag/eighteenth-dynasty/">Eighteenth Dynasty</a> royal mummies, including that of <a href="http://emhotep.net/tag/tutankhamun/">Tutankhamun</a>.  “But surely, if we are comfortable with sampling the royal mummies for DNA, it should be possible to structure this research in a way that meets the permit criteria,” Mr. Rose suggests (<strong>Source:  <em>Beyond Stone &amp; Bone:</em> </strong> “<a href="http://archaeology.org/blog/?p=903">Time for the Great Pyramid?</a>”). </p>
<p>Whether it ultimately proves to be correct or not, Jean-Pierre Houdin’s work is rock solid and based on science where he is a proven expert.  In addition to Bob “Mr. Mummy” Brier, Mark Rose adds his voice to Egyptologists of the caliber of <a href="http://emhotep.net/tag/dieter-arnold/">Dieter Arnold</a> and Rainer Stadelman in support of allowing Jean-Pierre to put his theories to the test.</p>
<div id="attachment_3710" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 610px"><img class="size-full wp-image-3710 " title="JPH with Magdy El-Ghandour and Taha Abdallah" src="http://emhotep.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/JPH-with-Magdy-El-Ghandour-and-Taha-Abdallah.png" alt="" width="600" height="427" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Jean-Pierre Houdin signing autographs for Magdy El-Ghandour, Director of Foreign Missions for the Supreme Council of Antiquities, and Taha Abdallah, Dean of Shorouk University (Photo courtesy of Jean-Pierre Houdin)</p></div>
<p>The answer to Mr. Rose’s question is a resounding yes:  <em>it is indeed time for the Great Pyramid</em>. </p>
<p>Dr. Hawass, <strong>tear down this wall!</strong></p>
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<h2 style="text-align: left;">See Also</h2>
<ul>
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<div style="text-align: left;"><a title="Permanent Link to Hemienu to Houdin:  Building A Great Pyramid – Introduction" rel="bookmark" href="http://emhotep.net/2009/09/12/locations/lower-egypt/giza-plateau-lower-egypt/hemienu-to-houdin-building-a-great-pyramid-introduction/">Hemienu to Houdin: Building A Great Pyramid – Introduction</a></div>
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<div style="text-align: left;"><a title="Permanent Link to Hemienu to Houdin Part One:  How Do You Prefer Your Ramp, Straight or With a Twist?" rel="bookmark" href="http://emhotep.net/2009/10/16/locations/lower-egypt/giza-plateau-lower-egypt/hemienu-to-houdin-part-one-how-do-you-prefer-your-ramp-straight-or-with-a-twist/">Hemienu to Houdin Part One: How Do You Prefer Your Ramp, Straight or With a Twist?</a></div>
</li>
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<div style="text-align: left;"><a title="Permanent Link to Jean-Pierre Houdin’s Work With the Great Pyramid of Khufu Subject of New Documentary" rel="bookmark" href="http://emhotep.net/2009/11/12/locations/lower-egypt/giza-plateau-lower-egypt/jean-pierre-houdin%e2%80%99s-work-with-the-great-pyramid-of-khufu-subject-of-new-documentary/">Jean-Pierre Houdin’s Work With the Great Pyramid of Khufu Subject of New Documentary</a></div>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><em>Copyright by Keith Payne, 2010.  All rights reserved.</em></p>
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<h5 style="text-align: center;">Photograph of Jean-Pierre Houdin used by permission.  All rights reserved.</h5>
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